Pittsboro Journal

Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:41:36 -0400
From: Michael Mansour
Subject: Lowes Used Auto Parts is great!

I just wanted to share the great experience I have had with Gerry at Lowes Used Auto Parts in Moncure (5 miles south of Pittsboro off Pittsboro-Moncure Rd). They’re a family owner business where customer service and hospitality stands out. They have many makes and models of parts cars to select from. I’ve needed several parts recently and he has always been accommodating with fair prices.

Today I specifically needed a condenser today to get my A/C working again, and expected it to take a day or two to remove the part. He called me a couple hours later and told me he just pulled the part for me… It’s mid-day with a heat index of 105! He keeps the place tidy and you will even see cows and horses roaming around sometimes.

If anyone needs parts for your vehicles I would recommend calling Gerry ant Lowes Used Auto Parts first. 919-542-5993 1475 Charlie Brooks Road, Moncure, NC

Regards,

S. “Michael” Mansour
Broker/Realtor R
Selling Directly Flat Fee Real Estate
919-656-4714
www.SellingDirectly.com

Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:15:13 -0400
From: Kelly Shattuck
Subject: Awesome massage therapist in Pittsboro

I would like to make an unsolicited recommendation for an awesome massage therapist in Pittsboro. We have several excellent massage therapists here; I have heard great things about Bonnie and Jamie. However, I recently had the pleasure of receiving a massage from Cindra Kerscher at the Pittsboro Center for Natural Medicine.

The massage from Cindra was such a wonderful, nurturing, and relaxing experience. The bonus of the location at Pittsboro Center for Natural Medicine was the icing on the cake. I have some deep muscle tension in my shoulders and neck, and the combination of Cindra’s deep massage work, hot stones, and aromatherapy made a huge difference in relieving my tightness and stress. I went home that evening and had the best restful sleep I have had in a while. I would highly recommend her to anyone.

Cindra’s business card says she also does fertility education and bodywork as well.

Her website is http://bodyandbirthmassage.com/ and her phone number is 919-444-4141.

Kelly Shattuck
Health and Beauty Manager
Chatham Marketplace
kelly@chathammarketplace.coop
(919) 542-2643

Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:03:29 -0400
From: Stacy DucK
Subject: Success at the Burrito Bash

Chatham Social Health Council would like to thank all the sponsors and supporters at the Burrito Bash this past Tuesday night. It was a great turnout!

We would also like to thank Becky from the Goathouse Refuge for all her help and assistance. Support for CSHC came from Food Lion – PBO and SC, Wal-mart, Shot of Spro’, Stained Glass by Sam, NC Art Gallery, Piggly Wiggly, Lowe’s, Chatham Market Place, Clyde’s Critters, Carolina Body Shapers and many personal sponsors. I would also like to thank the Board Members of Chatham Social Health Council and the staff. The staff at CSHC are the most amazing people to work with. I could not ask for a better crew.

Please take the time to meet the people here as they put their heart and souls into providing services to Chatham County. Thank you to Dorothy Waterson, Summer Conlon and Erika Gabriel for working with us at the event. I would also like to thank the youth volunteers, Damien and Cameron Duck, Jasmine Younger, Josh Huff, and Vicki Delac – these kids are dedicated and hardworking. Again, thank you Chatham County for supporting the efforts of the Chatham Social Health Council!!

–
Stacy Duck
Executive Director
Chatham Social Health Council
(919)742-3762 office
(877)560-9705 toll free
(919)799-0347 NEW cell

Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:44:18 -0400
From: Mia Munn
Subject: Re: Chatham BOE Sabotages Students

I’ve been out of town, so I couldn’t respond sooner.

The school administration presented a draft calendar at the January 11 board meeting.

http://www.chatham.k12.nc.us/board/meetings/2009-2010/01_11_10_boemtg/Agenda%20Item-Draft%20Calendar%20for%202010-11.pdf

From the agenda item:

A broad-based committee comprised of an administrator, a teacher, a
classified employee and a parent from each school met in December to
create a draft 2010-2011 calendar. Due to the restrictions placed
upon districts by House Bill 1464 and the General Statute115C-84.2,
the committee created and reached consensus on one draft. The
restrictions include: 180 student days; 215 calendar days; begin no
sooner than August 25 and end no later than June 10 for students;
not have Veteran’s Day as an instructional or staff workday, and
five protected workdays for teachers, one at the beginning of the
school year and one after each academic quarter to allow teachers
opportunities to complete instructional and classroom administrative
duties. Additionally, the calendar must have the same or equivalent
number of holidays as designated by the State Personnel Commission.
The Board of elections has also requested that we schedule a workday
on the first Tuesday in November when possible. The committee was
further charged to include at least five (5) inclement weather days
and six (6) Early release Staff Development Days. The consensus
draft which is attached for comparison purposes was distributed to
schools for feedback.

The BOE draft calendar for your review is also attached and includes
recommendations made by schools when the recommendations were in
keeping with the requirements. The calendar meets all of the
requirements and necessary considerations. In an attempt to meet the
request of the Board of Elections, include 180 student days and
address staff development needs, the first Tuesday in November is
designated as an Early Release Staff Development day. The Early
Release Staff Development Days are generally scheduled on Wednesdays
as requested by the committee. The differences in the two calendars
include: September 6 was changed from an optional day to a holiday;
the optional day was moved to Memorial Day; six weeks grading period
in April was moved from April 18 to April 19 so that each period can
have 31 days. December 20 was changed to a required annual leave day
and December 22nd a holiday to accommodate 12 month employees. With
recommended changes from the board, the draft calendar will be sent
to schools and posted on the website to solicit feedback for thirty
days. The draft calendar will be brought back to the board on
February 15, 2010 for approval.

I made this comment in Chatlist #3624:

The draft 2010/2011 calendar will be posted on the district website
and at the schools until the Feb 15 board meeting, at which time the
calendar will be voted on for next year. There is very little
flexibility in the calendar because of state requirements. The key
issue is that Easter if very late. If spring break is Good Friday
through the week after Easter, then AP exams will start the first
day back, May 2. An alternative favored by staff of only 2 of the 16
schools is to have spring break the week before Easter through
Easter Monday, giving the kids 4 school days before AP exams start.
If you have an opinion, weigh in before Feb 15.

The calendar (the first of the two in the agenda item) was posted on the
district website for more than 30 days. I don’t know if anyone gave
their feedback to the board during that time, but no one spoke at the 2
board meetings where they could have made public comments on this.

From the Feb 15 school board agenda item:

http://www.chatham.k12.nc.us/board/meetings/2009-2010/02_15_10_boemtg/Agenda%20Item-School%20Calendar%202010-11.pdf

The draft 2010-2011 calendar is presented for approval for the
upcoming school year. The draft has remained on-line and in the
schools for more than 30 days for review and comment by staff and
public. School-based administrators were asked to seek feedback from
their staffs and parent communities. Additionally, an electronic
survey was sent to “all users†for individual feedback (see attached
survey results). From the survey, 652 responses were received, a
return rate of 63.36% (statistically reliable). Four options were
presented and the respondents were given an opportunity to submit
comments. 337 or 51.69% of the respondents selected the recommended
draft which includes the optional and inclement weather days as
April 22 and May 30. 46.32% chose attending school on Saturdays in
lieu of April 22 and May 30. Additionally, 43.40% preferred that
Spring Break remain during the week of April 25-29 as opposed to
42.18% for the week of April 18-22. 12.88 % preferred the observance
of Spring Break in March. Other feedback received included: starting
school earlier, administering exams prior to the Winter Break,
moving the protected workday closer to the end of the 6 or 9 weeks
grading period, observing one grading period and observing Spring
Break in March. Starting school earlier is not an option; therefore,
exams cannot occur prior to the Winter Break. The protected workday
is placed as close to midway points of the two grading periods as
possible. For example, if the protected day occurs immediately after
the six weeks period, then it will occur three weeks before the end
of the nine weeks period for K-8 schools. Moving to one grading
period is a decision that has to be made prior to the development of
a calendar and the question from a parent regarding moving Spring
Break to March was included in the survey. Based on the feedback and
the survey results, CCS’ Calendar Committee’s recommendation or the
draft calendar presented at the January 11, 2010 BOE meeting is
submitted for your approval.

I think the board should have considered the timing of the AP exams more – there was a little discussion, but the board unanimously decided to go with this calendar because the administration recommended it and the plurality of survey respondents chose it. (That detail isn’t in the minutes, but I was at the meeting and remember the discussion.) As the mother of sons who took many AP exams, I understand that this is a bad idea – I would have moved spring break a week earlier. (I am also not a
fan of pure block schedules because of AP exams, as well as the effect on math and foreign language.)

In November/December, school committees will develop the 2011-12 calendar. If you are concerned, ask your principal if you can participate. At the January 10, 2011 school board meeting (6pm, Central Office in Pittsboro), the 2011-12 draft calendar will be presented.If you are concerned, come to the Jan 10 meeting or to the February 14, 2011 board meeting (6:30pm Central Office in Pittsboro) and make your comments.

Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:23:26 -0400
From: Ollie waddell
Subject: Chatham’s Talking Bread Machine

I read with great interest yesterday’s post regarding another talking bread making machine in Chatham county. I also have a bread maker that has always seemed to be saying something too. My machine seems to say “Whose Gonna Win?” Whose Gonna Win?” It sometimes almost drives me insane. But my machine has never changed and said anything different.

And congrats to Dawn on her writing. Seldom does a beginner bring forth such a wonderfully rich story of ordinary everyday objects and events. And how she brilliantly incorporated her Mother into the story. She certainly did pack a lot of information into each paragraph.

Is such a story considered folk art, folklore or what?

I hope we can expect more from this gifted writer. Thanks Dawn!

Ollie

Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:51:28 -0400
From: Shakori Hills

Subject: Hoppin’ John Fiddlers’ Convention – Sept. 17-19

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

The 4th Annual Hoppin’ John Old-Time Bluegrass Fiddlers’ Convention
Sept 17-19, 2010

Shakori Hills Community Arts Center presents The Hoppin’ John
Old-Time & Bluegrass Fiddlers’ Convention, now in its 4th year.
Hoppin’ John is a three-day event for musicians, dancers and music
lovers to come together to celebrate the  traditions of bluegrass and
old-time music. There are dance, instrument and band contests, square
dances, a cook-off, and many unscheduled special musical moments!

The convention helps keep traditional music alive and provides an
opportunity for young people to play on stage and be exposed to some
of the musicians who have helped inspire them in their love of
traditional music.  North Carolina is known for old-time and
bluegrass fiddlers’ conventions and Hoppin’ John is bound to be the
new favorite in the State!

Highlights this year include square dances with the Minglewood
Ramblers and the Roan Mountain Hilltoppers with caller Allison
Williams, a folk singing workshop with Alice Gerrard, a kids workshop
with a variety of provided instruments, and Sunday morning gospel.

As always, there will be a Hoppin’ John Cook-off. Contests include:
band (old-time, bluegrass, and non-traditional), old-time and
bluegrass instrument (fiddle, guitar, mandolin, banjo, and bass),
folk song, and dance. There will also be contest for youth
musicianship. $3550 total in cash prizes!

Tickets & Admission (purchased at the gate only):
Contestant Tickets: $20 w/ $10 refund
Friday Admission: $8
Saturday Admission: $12
Camping: $10 per vehicle per night – $15 per night for RVs
Day Parking is Free!

There will be great craft and musical instrument vendors as well as
food vendors, including the Shakori Hills Pizza Shack and BBQ so
prepare to being the family and stay for the weekend!

More info available at http://www.hoppinjohn.org

–
Sara Waters
Press/Public Relations and Co-coordinator
Shakori Hills Grassroots Festival of Music and Dance
Fall Shakori Hills Grassroots Festival: October 7-10, 2010
Spring Shakori Hills Grassroots Festival: April 21-24, 2011
1439 Henderson Tanyard Rd.
Silk Hope, NC 27312

Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:35:42 -0400
From: Mike Fox
Subject: Cell phone service

Evan Keiser’s post about how excellent Verizon works for him is a reminder that there is no one general answer for which cell phone service is best.

Chatham is a big county with lots of different dead spots and coverage areas for all the different carriers.  What one person thinks is great may not be great for someone else depending on where you use it.  I had Verizon and it was pretty good.  At the time the network that was generally recognized as the best for Chatham was Alltell,

which Verizon bought so now Verizon customers have both companies’ coverage, so in general it should be a good choice.  But for my own use I found Verizon inadequate and have been very happy with Sprint after switching, plus I pay a lot less.  Bottom line, get a phone with a two-week trial period and use the heck out of it everywhere

you expect to use it before it’s too late to back out of the contract. It’s inconvenient but not as bad as being stuck in a 2 year contract with a carrier that doesn’t work for you.  I think all the major carriers offer this.

Of course if you must have a certain phone like the iPhone, you choice is made and you just have to deal with the network that comes with it.

Mike

Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:47:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Meg Miller
Subject: AP exams ARE important!

wow.  That is surprising and very disappointing news concerning the placement of spring break right before AP exams.Almost as surprising as the scheduling NW did which puts all but one of the AP exams in the spring..  I understand the thought behind this, to teach the course closer to the testing time but it over loads students who are taking more than 2 AP classes (my daughter will now have to drop AP Stat).  Also the class time in the spring is shortened b/c of the test schedule.

I guess AP students are supposed to use their spring break to study.  and I’m sure most of them will because that’sthe type of student who signs up for the challenge of AP anyway.

There’s no winning with AP and the block schedule but i totally agree that someone is not thinking when it comes to the calendar.   AP students are a minority, and not many parents are going to give this a second thought. But again it goes back to why we lose so many talented gifted kids to other schools like  Woods.  People on the “outside” scratch their heads and wonder whey the BOE makes bonehead decisions like this.

Email Mr. Logan the the BOE and ask them why the kids who work so hard to achieve are always getting the short end…and this starts with the “gifted” programs in grade school.

and P.S.  Spot on Pam!

Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:09:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Linda Bienvenue
Subject: Immigrants report crime too

So, Chatham County’s “leadership” is being pragmatic when they decide that the Sheriffs should not spend their time enforcing the law (ICE), to give them the time to arrest those who “break” the law (burglars, drug dealers, etc.), when they are reported by those who are living here against the law (illegal immigrants)   Did I interpret that correctly?   Oh, and by the way, the leadership is also breaking the law.   Has this surreal sanctuary brought everyone who was in the shadows out of them?   Have a lot of people “in the shadows” been calling in to report crimes?   How can you tell?  Has crime in Chatham County decreased measurably because of this, and if it has/has not – can it be proven?   I was brought up to believe that if you are not breaking the law, you have nothing to fear from those who enforce the law.   Of course, as each day passes, those in power seek to remove more rights and privileges from a law-abiding free people, and give the rights to those who break the law.   Ahhhh — so this is redistribution in action.

Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:43:55 -0400
From: pthomas
Subject: Insurance for inexperienced drivers

I totally agree with regular schmo about her views on inexperienced drivers.  I believe in children working and paying for part of their own insurance.

My daughter started working in tobacco when she was 13, and saved money for her car insurance from the time she started working.  By the time she got her drivers license, she had quite a lot of money saved.

She continued working during the whole time that she went to high school and college.  She learned responsibility and the rewards of hard work.  Today, she works full time, is raising four children, and is teaching them the same work ethic that she developed.

The insurance companies are in the business to make money.  They take more risks by insuring inexperienced drivers, so they charge more.  You just suck it up and pay for being inexperienced.

Phyllis Thomas

Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:22:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Meg Miller
Subject: You got me!

The other day I received an email entitled “comments on your post” and like a boob I opened it.  It was linked through an old post I made to the chatlist, back in 2007 and there were all sorts of strange addresses attached to it. This was a post that Gene put on the journal so it is still accessible.  i knew right then I had screwed up. There was a snippet of the post I had made so i have no doubt that whoever sent me this “gift” did it through my chatlist account.

i have contacted Gene, as a heads up.  My computer is completely dead but I guess I should have known better.

I’m not blaming, just warning.

Meg

PS.  am using my don’t laptop for now.  Need a good (cheap) Mac repair person.

Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:41:18 -0400
From: Joy Hewett
Subject: library

While libraries across the  country are cutting services, our county commissioners have teamed up with the community college to enlarge our library. (It may even create a few jobs!) For the improvement in the library  many of us are quite glad, but I also think bookmobiles provide a valuable service to the community, too. While I suffer the inconvenience of the roundabout going in at 87, it has led to alternative routes to town. Some may consider roads and libraries, funded by taxpayers, as “socialist” but I think collective efforts for the good of the community are vital, and what the government can do best for us.

Let’s hope the county can find a way to provide a book mobile again in the future.

Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:01:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: regular schmo
Subject: Insurance for new drivers

I am in complete agreement with the insurance company for charging more for new drivers.  Happened to me, happened to you, happens to everyone.  I paid half and my father paid half.  Of course I started driving when I was 14…. but I had to get a part time job to pay for my half of the insurance and for gas.  If you check the statistics you will see new drivers are the “worst” drivers.  Hence using the words “new”. Grades have nothing to do with driving ability in my opinion.  Though I had good grades when i was in school.  I just feel that new drivers should pay more.  I had to, my husband had to, my friends and family had to.  It makes sense.  And if they can not afford the insurance then I guess they don’t drive.  I worked while in school.  There are people working 2 jobs, going to school, and raising a family….. so collage kids should be able to work some… to pay for SOME of the insurance.  If you have more than 1 “new driver” in your family… well thats life.  You chose to have children close together.  That is what happens.  Did you complain about the cost of college?  (which is RIDICULOUS)  or did you accept it.  I love my insurance company.  They taught me responsibility at a young age.  I am still with them and will never change.  And, since I have a great (knock on wood) driving record I pay about $70 a month for 3 cars.

just my 2 cents.  People need to stop complaining about some things that have been around forEVER!  accept it.  Shouldnt the kids have been driving for a few years now?  I mean you can get a learning permit and start the insurance then.  So when they are old enough the insurance companies already know them and know how they drive.

ok I know not everyone agrees with me… but at least we are in America and opinions are aloud!
thanks chatlist

Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:38:17 -0400
From: “William \”Chip\” Pate”
Subject: Chatham BOE Sabotages Students

It’s hard to believe that community leaders elected and appointed to  promote educational excellence would sabotage the students they’re  supposed to serve, but that’s precisely what Chatham County school  officials and the Board of Education have done.

And apparently they don’t care one bit.

Despite knowing about the potential conflict, these “leaders”  scheduled next year’s spring break immediately before Advanced  Placement exams. That means high school sophomores, juniors and  seniors will return after 10 days away from the classroom and walk  straight into college-level finals. Students will have no chance to  get back

into their academic routines, attend review sessions or get  last-minute advice from teachers.

The AP Chemistry and AP Environmental Science exams are that Monday  morning at 8 a.m. AP Psychology begins at noon. Good luck, folks.

Our ‘leaders” have failed. It could cost some of our students college  credit, much-needed flexibility later in their education and a lot of  money, since credit from AP exams allows many families to avoid  paying for courses later.

All they needed to do was schedule the break the week before Easter,  as many area school systems already have done (see below for a list)  — a very minor change to accommodate next year’s later holiday.

It’s not acceptable to use the excuse that “we’ve always done it like  that” or “most people wanted it that way.” That may be fine when  there’s no educational interest in play, but never when there’s a  compelling instructional reason to choose one option over another.  You can imagine the board’s response if “most people” wanted to be  out

of school the week before End of Grade tests!

Decisions like these reverberate far beyond the many students now  facing important exams without the opportunity to prepare adequately.  How do you possibly convince relocating families and businesses that  Chatham County has a quality school system when student achievement  clearly doesn’t matter?

What’s worse, these leaders don’t care. After making this argument to  board members and asking for a change in the calendar — in postal  mail and e-mail, with copies to the superintendent — not one board  member or school official responded in any way whatsoever. Silence. I  guess when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar,

there’s  simply nothing to say.

For the record, based on research provided to me, only four school  systems in the area sabotaged their students with a spring break  running from April 25 to 29 (through May 1 counting the weekend):  Randolph County, Harnett County, Asheboro City and Chatham County.

And, it probably isn’t too shocking that these districts also posted  the lowest average SAT scores in the area. (This might suggest  something about whether academic achievement is valued.)

Here are some schools or districts that looked out for their students  (and have higher average SAT scores than Chatham):

* April 18-25: Lee County, Guilford County, Alamance-Burlington and  Raleigh Charter (Wake)

* April 18-22: Wake County and Charlotte-Mecklenburg

* March 28-April 1: Orange County, Moore County, Chapel Hill- Carrboro and Winston-Salem/Forsyth

* March 21-25: Woods Charter (Chatham)

It’s something worth remembering when we hear about Chatham County  Schools “collectively creating success,” as its website boasts — and  when it’s time again to visit the polls.

William S. “Chip” Pate Jr.
Pittsboro

Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:36:08 -0400
From: Phyllis Thomas
Subject: Good Heating/ AC

I have had a wonderful relationship with A-1 Heating and Cooling.
Their prices are competitive, and I purchased the maintenance contract.
They have been completely prompt and attentive, and the people that come out have  always been extremely nice.
The phone number is 919-837-5467.
The company is located in the Chatham Central area.  I don’t remember if it’s Bear Creek, Bonlee, or Goldston.

Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:11:40 -0400
From: Susan Giles
Subject: Fwd: N. C. Wildlife Update

On Sept 8, Chatham County citizens can express concerns regarding wildlife issues at the CCCC. Please see schedule and add to ChatList.

Susan Giles,
retired, NC WRC

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Wildlife News – Do Not Reply <WildlifeNews@ncwildlife.org>
Date: Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:33 PM
Subject: N. C. Wildlife Update

*N.C. Wildlife Resources Commission*

*2011-2012 Proposed Hunting, Trapping and Fishing Regulation Changes Up for Public Comment ** *

*RALEIGH, N.C. (July 15, 2010)* – The N.C. Wildlife Resources Commission
voted on July  7 to take to statewide public hearings 23 proposed changes to
the state’s hunting, trapping and fishing regulations for the 2011-2012
seasons.

Adding five streams to the public trout waters program and removing hunting
and trapping restrictions at Cowan’s Ford Waterfowl Refuge in Lincoln,
Mecklenburg and Gaston counties are among the regulation changes. The public
can provide comments online beginning in early August and at any of the nine
public hearings in September.

For full text of the proposed regulations changes, visit the Proposed
Regulations for 2011-2012 Hunting, Trapping and Fishing
Seasons<http://www.ncwildlife.

org/NewsReleases/documents/Proposed_changes_in_Hunting_Trapping_and_Fishing_Regulations_for_2011.pdf>on
the Commission’s website,
www.ncwildlife.org.

Public hearings begin at 7 p.m. The schedule for the 2011-2012 hunting,
trapping and fishing seasons is below:

*DATE* Wed, Sept. 8

*DISTRICT* 5

*CITY** * Pittsboro

*LOCATION* Central Carolina Community
College<http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&q=Central+Carolina+Community+College+764+West+Street,+Pittsboro,+NC&fb=1&gl=us&hq=Central+Carolina+Community+College&hnear=764+West+St,+Pittsboro,+NC+27312&cid=0,0,11644501995043027092&ei=JaU0TOS2JMOB8gaav8mqAw&ved=0CBM>

In addition to attending a public hearing, the public can provide comments
by:

- Mailing comments to 1701 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, N.C. 27699-1701;
- Visiting the Commission’s website, www.ncwildlife.org. In early August,
a Submit Comments Link will be posted on the home page.  **

After hearing public comments and reviewing written comments, the 19 members
of the Wildlife Commission will meet in November and vote on adopting these
proposed rules. Adopted rules will go into effect Aug. 1, 2011.

*About the N.C. Wildlife Resources Commission*

Since 1947, the North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission has been
dedicated to the conservation and sustainability of the state’s fish and
wildlife resources through research, scientific management, wise use, and
public input. The Commission is the state regulatory agency responsible for
the enforcement of fishing, hunting, trapping and boating laws and provides
programs and opportunities for wildlife-related educational, recreational
and sporting activities. To learn more, visit www.ncwildlife.org

Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:06:44 -0400
From: Nick Meyer
Subject: Anonymous trashing

To the not so gentle,

Another anonymous ad hominem attack was launched yesterday on the chatlist by (Mr? Ms?) “Ima Lone”.

The target was Lyle Estill.  No matter what you think of Lyle’s opinions ( I happen to mostly agree with them, including about the Plenty), no one can accuse him of not standing squarely behind them with intelligent explication, with his money, with his considerable energy, and with his name. “Lone” fails on all counts.

In the marketplace of ideas anonymous trashtalk should be treated as the trash it is.

Nick Meyer

Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:41:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: doug berg
Subject: Immigrants report crime, too

A writer suggests that the Chatham leadership does not question immigration status out of a belief in some right to immigrate “undodumentedly.” (July 14, post #15) I would imagine, however, the real reason is a bit more mundane and a lot more pragmatic. Here on the local level, keeping people within the boundaries of the law requires as many residents as possible to be willing to “call the law” when they see something going on that should not be. If you get law enforcment involved in checking status, and at the same time you are driving a large demographic group into the shadows, well, I think you’d see crime starting to increase.

Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:36:24 GMT
From: Pam Cash-Roper
Subject: Offer for cheaper biofuel by Lyle Estill

I do not personally know this man BUT it seems to me he has made a generous offer of lower fuel costs for the Bookmobile. I can not see what his past public or private appearances have to do with his present offering.. Been here all my life and can not for life me undestand where all this backbiting, attacking and negative, nasty attitudes come into play. I have in all my 56 years never encountered such negative people from the chatlist, to the BBS, to people on the street who just can not say anything nice, pleasant or positive. If I believed everything I heard said about folks here in these forums…I would not want to meet anyone. But you see I know there are wonderful, good people here..most of them just don’t post on these boards. Let’s go for a few more positives. Mr. Estill if you read this, would love to meet you over a glass of iced tea. Because no one can be all bad. Blessed Be.

Pam Cash-Roper

Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:58:29 -0400
From: Rita Marley-McKenzie
Subject: Thanks to Lee Pollard and Computer Therapy

I want to take a moment to sincerely thank Lee Pollard and Computer Therapy Inc for donating computers and laptops to Chatham foster youth. These computers allow students to learn new skills, complete homework assignments, take online classes, complete research, and much more. Chatham County is truly blessed to have such a beneficial program.

If you are planning to replace your computer or have already purchased a new computer, please consider donating your old computer or laptop to Computer Therapy.  www.computer-therapy.com

Thanks again! Rita.

Rita Marley-McKenzie
LINKS Coordinator
Chatham County DSS